fediverse@lemmy.world

This magazine is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

hendrik, (edited ) in Not federated Lemmy instances?

Since the "forums" came up several times: I'd agree. In this case you'd choose something like Discourse or Flarum. Those are non-federated forums. And they offer some nice features, Lemmy doesn't have. A lot of Free Software projects use Discourse. It's more lightweight, has proven to be robust, it offers moderation features that are tailored to the use case, better ways to organize posts, you can mark correct answers, integrate itinto other services and do 50 other things plus install plugins. It's just better and easier to do it that way. And that's why people do it.

Suoko, in Not federated Lemmy instances?
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

Those using lemmybb maybe

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

Nexy, in Not federated Lemmy instances?

Reddit

SatansMaggotyCumFart, in Not federated Lemmy instances?

Truth Social.

nokturne213,

I thought that was mastadon, not lemmy.

rimu, in Not federated Lemmy instances?
@rimu@piefed.social avatar

https://beehaw.org doesn't federate with lemmy.world which cuts them off from most of Lemmy-space.

IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI,

Yeah. I mean 100% isolated instances.

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

they do federate with others though... so not stand-alone as op is describing

ComradeMiao,

Was it for moderation reasons?

can,

Context

They had their instance and community before most common ones today existed (pre API bs)

Edit: fixed link

ComradeMiao,

Thanks!

can,

And sh.itjust.works too!

ada, in Not federated Lemmy instances?
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hexbear was the only instance with a sizable user base that used to do this, but these days they federate too

IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI,

Do you know why they were not federated and then changed to federation?

Diva,

I believe they forked from Lemmy before federation existed close to 4 years ago, added things like custom emojis and then only re-merged after federation was implemented then turned it on.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@piefed.social avatar

Hexbear essentially predated federation iirc, then migrated to Lemmy when that became possible. Hexbear is I think roughly the 3rd oldest instance - sorting its posts by Old shows that it is 4 years old, while lemmygrad.ml is 5 years old, and lemmy.ml is 6 years old. Lemmy.ca in Canada and the Finnish sopuli are both also 4 years old, mander.xyz is 3 years old, but Lemmy.world, by far the largest instance with ~80% of all users, is only ~2 years old, being formed at the time of the Rexodus.

Read some more about it here (don't click the link there to follow further - in true hexbear trolling fashion it will simply take you to a picture showing a pig in the act of pooping, you have been warned) and especially here, e.g.:

Two of the sites listed there, Hexbear (aka. chapo.chat) and Bakchodi, do not federate. They are not part of the Fediverse, but they are using Lemmy. Hexbear is actually running their own fork of Lemmy.

TLDR: bc they felt like it, then they didn't, now it seems like they almost do again, bc facts are nearly always stranger than fiction:-).

breadsmasher, in Not federated Lemmy instances?
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

do you mean basically any forum not based on federation? like 99% of other communities?

IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI,

Yes, but using Lemmy and not federated.

unknown1234_5,

why use Lemmy instead of just being a normal forum if you aren't going to federate?

IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI,

That is exactly why I asked. Maybe there is a reason I am missing. I expected some out of the box thinking.

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

It makes no sense. lemmy is a forum + federation. Removing the federated side, why bother with using lemmy or similar software? its like wanting a car to use to solely generate heat with the exhaust. Theres far better options for that

unknown1234_5,

well I'd say since non-federated Lemmy is just a forum with a bunch of stuff for federation that you won't use, there's no point. if you want a forum, then Lemmy is the wrong answer. Lemmy is (or at least is designed to be) an open-source, federated copy of reddit, keeping the good parts while removing the corpo stuff and adding the benefits that open-source and federation bring. with only one instance, it's little more than a mediocre forum.

originalucifer, in Not federated Lemmy instances?
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

there are already dozens of good stand alone forum products. there would be no need to use a purposefully federating platform where half the code is put to federation. silly.

OpenStars, in Single instance Lemmy?
@OpenStars@piefed.social avatar
fmstrat,

First link at least is wildly over-claiming the difference. The data they describe is all cached in the browser and occurs once. PieFed uses ActivityPub, so network differences are moot since the same data transfers.

Cochise, in Single instance Lemmy?

Some people report less server load with Piefed.

mesamunefire,

Yeah I need to take another look at piefed. Thanks for the read.

But man the best part is the resources it consumes. Let me remind you that Lemmy puts a load of 12 on the server, when I turn off Lemmy the load with the other 13 web services running on the server is 0.5 and when I turn on PieFed the load is 1.

Im also looking for the same thing.

originalucifer, in Single instance Lemmy?
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

threaded-discussion server products require far more resources than a simple mastodon, twitter like server. if you want to federate with the threadiverse its going to be resource intensive.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club avatar

Why is this the case?

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

twitter/mastodon is just an old man shouting into the cloud (single to many). the discussion is very limited in scope. forums (many to many) are much more intensive due to the volume of human activity and its nested interactions with said data.

even if you just look at the biggest players thats dozens of servers with 100k users all upvoting/replying/moderating and your instance needs to process that if you want a decent interaction.

cupcakezealot, in Misskey Has Reached 1 Million Registered Users!
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

god i wish misskey would replace tumblr as the go to microblogger :(

i love misskey/sharkey so much

M33, in Misskey Has Reached 1 Million Registered Users!

Meanwhile I am still looking for a Miskey fork without all the cat girl thing, and an actual community

Fizz, in what is your opinion on mastodon and other fediverse microblogging sites?? as opposed to forum-type websites
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Microblogging is mature now and I think it sucks as a communication medium. I think discussion focused sites are a much healthier experience.

minyaen, in what is your opinion on mastodon and other fediverse microblogging sites?? as opposed to forum-type websites

Started a post with a topic in the same ballpark:

lemmy.ml/post/24189598

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • fediverse@lemmy.world
  • test
  • All magazines